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Gold Buying Advice for 2025. Money stories





 So we're going to lay out a plan and


hopefully none of it's new but maybe


this time. it'll be a little bit more


clear the short version here is just hey


here's some gold some of this made sense


and some of it didn't but unfortunately


the way mistakes work is sometimes you


have to make them before you can spot


them so repeat topic done differently


you might be just starting out buying


gold maybe you're just searching the


idea maybe you've been doing it for


years but regardless of how far in you


are this is still the most important


part of the whole topic there are a few


things you should be thinking about


before you buy in the first place and


some of the most important ideas aren't


going to affect you until you go to sell


so that kind of thing is easy to


overlook in the front end because you're


not thinking about selling you're


thinking about buying well that can be


an easy mistake to make just ask me how


I know now what I found is there might


be 99 plans for buying gold some of them


even good but if you take bits and


pieces from each of those plans it's no


longer a plan so I'm not going to tell


you that my way is the only way to go


about this but I will tell you that I


found a right way to do it and I've also


found a wrong one so before we get back


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Slash new so the first thing that I'm


going to say about buying gold is that I


don't see it as an investment to me this


stuff is savings and the reason that I


would start there is that the trigger


for a lot of us to look into gold in the


first place is sometimes some kind of


planning scenario a scenario that ranges


from a stock market crash to an allout


Mad Max world you're going to see that


you're going to hear that so it's easy


to come in hot thinking that if you


don't have a pile of gold and silver


well you run the risk of losing


everything so let's put all the fire and


brimstone out of our minds there are


strange people online telling strange


stories let's just look past it the way


that I think we should approach this is


pretty simple personally I buy gold a


little bit at a time with money that I


freed up from suspicious needs so extra


streaming services nights out on the


town fancier cars anything I don't


really need I try to pull that back into


my budget for gold now this article is


about buying it so it makes sense to


look at where the money is coming from


in the first place so for me I budgeted


a monthly purchase if you just want to


get in buy some gold and get back out


well I would say just think of that more


as savings than as some kind of big


investment so let's get specific for a


minute the price of gold can be split


into two factors the spot price and the


premium the spot price is the value of


the gold itself determined by trading


levels it doesn't matter where you are


in the world more or less that price is


consistent and gold gold is dollar


denominated so there's going to be


fluctuation between currencies but the


gold content of these coins should be


worth the same amount anywhere in the


world now the second part of price is


premium and that's the amount that you


pay above spot so you think of that as a


retail markup now the premium is


important because most people are going


to buy and sell from the same place when


you buy from an online dealer or a local


shop you might pay a premium of anywhere


between 3 and say 20% now if you sell to


shop you're going to find that the


buyback is significantly less so what's


significantly less well it depends on


what you buy and that's probably why


most of you are here what most of you


are probably interested in anyway so


let's get into it we're going to talk


about four things the metal the form the


mint and the size so for metal that's


probably the first thing we want to


decide we're talking about silver gold


Platinum mainly this article focuses on


gold now there are a few big reasons


that I prefer gold to other precious


metals but to stay on topic I'll just


say gold has lower premiums for form


that's going to be coins or bars and you


could say scrap or jewelry or something


else but we're starting out here we need


to stay focused I think you should keep


it simple you should choose between


coins or bars coins and bars I like


coins personally because they're easier


to authenticate they're also a little


bit easier to sell and then for mints I


think you should always start with your


Regional mint so whoever is closest here


in the United States it's the US Mint


and I'm going to include Royal Canadian


Mint as a close second they're just over


the border and then throw in the Royal


Mint and Perth Mint as honorable


mentions now there are others and of the


seven or eight top coins to consider


those Four Mints that I just mentioned


that'll get you five of them for size


you have a lot of options but because


we're early in this this is early advice


we're going to focus on 1 oce and then


1/2 1/4 and one10 oun fractional sizes


and that gives us a pool of options so


we can start talking about premiums


premiums again that's how much we're


going to have to pay over the spot price


of gold every time we buy so what have


we been looking at here well American


Gold Eagles gold buffalos Canadian gold


Maple Leaves the Eagles 1 oz and/ qu


ounce the maples and the buffalos 1 o


coins now if I was starting out today


what you see on the desk here would be


my option but that's just me there are


strong cases to be made for branas or


Krug grants kangaroos Phil harmonics


there also cases to be made for gold


bars cases for series coins from Big


mints even cases for us pre-33 gold or


old European gold but all of that really


depends on your specific situation so


let's take a quick look at premium the


premium on 1o Gold Eagles and Buffalos


it's around 5 1/2% for gold Maple it's


32% give take about 1% I'm just going to


show you the size difference here the


premium on a quarter ounce gold eagle


right now is about 12 12% quarter ounce


coins from other mints you can find them


for lower we'll use 9% as a typical


premium for quarter ounce branas or kwrs


10th ounce coins they're going to range


from about 16% to 28% so things are


getting pretty serious when you're


buying at that size the smaller the coin


the higher the premium the half ounce


size for whatever reason is kind of Hit


or Miss usually though they're about the


same as the quarter ounce premiums so


let's get a 7th inning stretch here


what's different from the last time that


I ran through a plan like this well


premiums on fractional Eagles have


definitely come down and last year I


think the community probably got a


little bit of a flash of what can happen


in a buyer Market we saw smaller dealers


heavy on inventory they weren't all


buying and I even had the largest online


dealer on on the planet I believe


declined to buy a series coin that I had


bought from them the year prior so a lot


of the rationale that I put into the


plan that I put out in 2020 on why you


might limit your choices to the most


popular options well we got some new


evidence on why now that said there are


still a lot of good choices with gold


you have a lot of people making good


cases for whatever it is that they


prefer but the cases aren't as strong if


you start to mix them together so your


plan shouldn't be a mix of 12 different


plans and I don't think that there is a


good case to be made for buying whatever


comes along or something different every


time regardless of what seems hot here


on YouTube or Reddit or wherever unless


you're just doing this for fun and in


that case just I guess grab whatever


catches your eye if you want what's


efficient though what's easy and what


gives you an exit plan I would say come


up with a short list and that's what I'm


showing on the table here so I've got a


mess here let me clean this up and let


me get really specific if I was going to


come up with a simple plan say I wanted


12 oz of gold I would want 10 1 oz gold


buffalo Eagles or Maple Leafs and then


eight quar ounce gold Eagles and the


most important part of that plan is just


that I wouldn't have a lot of options it


wouldn't have 12 different coins or 50


different coins 50 different forms of


gold different mints different sizes


different Purity did somehow add up to


around 12 ounces because if I went to


sell that pile the math and the simple


Logistics of selling it just goes out


the window it gets way more complicated


so let me just give you a few more


things to think about before we close


this down maybe you caught that I


ignored Purity the first time around


these Eagles on the desk they're 22


karat the Buffalo and the maples are 24


carot and most buyers simply do not care


if you go strictly from sales figures


the American Gold Eagles are the most


popular gold coin sold worldwide


Canadian gold Maple Leaf here that's the


second so we can't say that 24 karat


gold coins are more popular than 22 it


just isn't true the eagle is 91.67% pure


but it still has 1 o of pure gold so


it's simple that remaining silver and


copper in the alloy that just makes the


Eagles harder and slightly heavier so


I'd say don't get caught up in that but


if you don't want 22 karat gold for


whatever reason you have plenty of


options you have Buffalo's Maple Leaf


branas kangaroos Phil harmonics you're


covered okay so the last point is about


price let's start off with which size to


buy you caught that 1 oz is the cheapest


in terms of Premium percentage 1 oz bars


they're even cheaper than coins so there


are two things to think about here you


have the overall cost at the time of the


purchase and then you have the buy to


sell spread so the first part of that is


just a simple case of what you're


comfortable buying each time maybe you


don't want to spend $2,100 on one of


these 1 o coins every time 550 for one


of these quarter ounce coins that might


be a better option for you but as a note


you're going to be spending spending


$2,200 for the same gold content if you


go the route of buying these quarter


ounce coins it could be$ 2500 if you're


buying 10th ounce coins so if you're


patient you'll save a lot of money


buying larger coins less often okay so


that's premium on the front end the


second part is the buy to sell spread I


can sell a buffalo to a dealer for 1 to


2% over spot so if I'm buying it at


5.5% selling it at 1.5% that's a spread


of 4% this gold Maple Leaf will sell for


spot so if I buy one of these at 3.5%


premium it seems like a better deal at


the time I can only sell it for spot


that's a


3.5% spread so slightly better but again


only slightly and that 3 to 4% buy to


sell spread that's pretty common for


what I buy a 1o gold bar it might cost


two or 2 and a half% in premium so again


you can save on the front end but I


would get one or 2% back of spot in a


sale so again similar case 4% buy to


sell spread okay so here's the tough


truth on fractional most local shops


that I know give the same buyback price


for a coin regardless of size so if they


were to give 2% overs spot for a 1 o


Gold Eagle most of them don't do much


better for fractional so the buy to sell


spread gets really wide on fractional


coins I found that to sell them for what


they're worth I typically have to find a


private buyer and that really slows


things down that or I just have to be


okay with the lower buyback price now


hypothetically I could sell any coin I


have to a private buyer for more than I


could sell it to a dealer but it's way


more work I don't want that I want an


easy sale not a hard one I definitely


don't want lots of Hard sales okay so


let's put all this together the advice


that I would give to myself my 17-year


younger self would be to choose from a


small list of options I would focus on 1


oun in quarter ounce coins quarter ounce


both for the flexibility and just to get


comfortable with the idea and 1 oun to


save on premium if my wife runs across


to gold bar when she's out at Cost Co


well great I'll take it if I run into a


dragon coin I just have to have yep I


want that too but for my primary stack I


want everything as uniform as possible


okay so look Plain Talk I told you


earlier that the tips I have the advice


I'd give my younger self came from


mistakes that I've made you saw my side


quest coins in the intro everything in


that Pelican case I can still justify by


some of them the lunar are going to


appreciate the Marcus Aurelius Roman


orius in there that's something I've


wanted for decades but most of what's in


there was just fun at the time gold I


paid too much for or I didn't really


think through and it falls outside of my


plan so does that matter well for me I


plan to roll a portion of my gold


Holdings into a property when I retire


property is not cheap so I'm going to


have to sell a lot so if I wanted to


sell say 40 ounces of gold I just made


that up I could sell 40 Eagles in a


single trip I cannot sell 40 ounces of


gold for my random Pile in that single


trip I would have to sell a few at a


time and they'd be considerably more


complicated to sell and I spend more on


those coins at the time so that's the


important part the part that most of us


don't talk about definitely the part


that most of us don't think about when


we're buying we don't think about what


it's going to take to sell now maybe


you're thinking well it's not my problem


I'm going to hand them down to my kids


well that problem doesn't go away


they're going to have a lot more trouble


than you would so whatever I choose


personally before I buy a single coin


I'm going to call up a local shop if I


have access to one and I'm going to ask


them what they would pay to buy back


whatever it is I choose that's an easy


call and an important call now you can


sell to online dealers as well but I


think that it's important to know where


the exit doors are in the event of an


emergency and that's going to be a local


buyer again if you have access to it


that felt like a really long talk I have


a headache hopefully that final Point


wasn't buried in there thinking about


the sale really is the most important


part it's a good place to call it good


so let us know what you're up to if you


have any advice for new buyers drop them


in the comments.

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